What do you think is better the traditional jesses of modern jesses? Right now I'm thinking about making modern jesses because they are easy for you to take off on and let the bird fly around the mew without having the risk of it getting caught on something. This is on just what I have read and I dont have a bird yet. Just want to make sure I get the right equipment first.
Triditional jesse will work fine, they won't get caught on anything, and there shouldn,t be abything in the mew that anything of any nature can get caught on, if there is remove it right away, Everything should round and smooth, this means the walls and the pershes. There should not be any type of perches where jesse or leashes will hang up or tangle. The walls in the mew should be smooth and no sharpe objects anywhere on the floors.
Are you two completely ignorant. ITS ILLEGAL TO USE TRADITIONAL JESSES!!!!!
WTF, read ANY apprentice falconry book.
Ya, take em off if they ever get caught on anything like a perch or part of the mews, forget the fact that if you lose your bird its basically a death sentence. Its a noose on the tarsis that the bird can't get off.
Its obvious neither of you know what you are talking about, so please read more books before you decide to go offering advice. The recommended reading list is very helpfull.
so if the modern jess doesn't fall out and gets caught the bird will survive? Come on Ooby slow down and think through your statement. First when using the almery jesses ( please excuse the spelling) most poeple choose to use two different jesses one for hunting and one for teathering. Some even flight them without jesses on but not many. and modern jesses have their down falls too. As yetr in British Columbia I know of no regs that forbid traditional jesses and I've used them now for years and havehad no problems. Perhaps I've been lucky perhaps the risks have been over stated. But traditional jess are a pain in the arse. they require more work to replace and more skill to make.They are one piece and if it's too big it's hard to make smaller. It's more difficult to put on it you don't have a helper to sit the bird on. But I will continue with them in nothing else but to infuriate a few here. And if I change I ain't telling.
Posted by: Ooby Posted on: 02/14/2005 at 22:25:56 Are you two completely ignorant. ITS ILLEGAL TO USE TRADITIONAL JESSES!!!!!
WTF, read ANY apprentice falconry book.
Ya, take em off if they ever get caught on anything like a perch or part of the mews, forget the fact that if you lose your bird its basically a death sentence. Its a noose on the tarsis that the bird can't get off.
Its obvious neither of you know what you are talking about, so please read more books before you decide to go offering advice. The recommended reading list is very helpfull.
Have been trying to find American books but all my library has are ones that where made in England and there laws are made. I just put an order for an american made book cant remember the title but i also requested info from my state department that should arrive today.
Have been trying to find American books but all my library has are ones that where made in England and there laws are made. I just put an order for an american made book cant remember the title but i also requested info from my state department that should arrive today.
I got a couple books from the UK and they both include pictures and designs of almyri style jesses. The reason they are the law here is for the theory that if you loose a bird it can pull the jesses out and be jessless. At least that's my understanding. I'm gonna have to agree with Chris on this one though. Many falconers that i have met or talked with use them to be legal but will customize them to keep the jess from falling out anyway like making the jesses large enough to be too tight in the grommet for example. Or putting something on the other side of the grommet from the button like a ziptie. That, ofcourse, defeats the whole purpose. The good thing about them is that you can easily switch between slitted jesses for the mews and slitless for the field, but very few falconers want to do that every time they want to go hawking. I chose to use jesses that are short and stiff enough that the likelyhood of my bird getting hooked on anything is slim to none.
Ooby you missed my point A tangled jess is a tangled jess regarless of style. Sizing your jesses is more important than the style. sizing your ancklets is more important that style. How many screen perches do your know of that are still in use? I know they have killed many birds and know of many more falconers that would like to see them made elegal. Have they, I don't know as I read your regs. There many incosistancies between legal, practical and what should be banded for the betterment of our sport. Just because the regs ban something does mean it was for the betterment of falconry it's usually band for the perceseption of some special interest group out side of falconry.