The results of mute testing showed round worms. The local vet told me ivermectin would take care of it however she did not have a lot of experience with raptors. Ivermectin is widely used and safe for all birds, it's also sold by most falconry supply houses. For this reason I figured someone on this board would know the dose.
Ivermectin can be fatally toxic if the dose goes too high. If she doesn't know the dose she can find it out by calling someone/looking on VIN/purchasing a good avian drug textbook. Hopefully you got your question answered. FWIW, these questions also require knowing what species is being given the ivermectin and what parasite you're trying to kill. They also require weight in grams, as the dose is usually micrograms per kilogram for ivermectin and the concentration is in milligrams per milliliter.
Ivermectin can be given using an insulin syringe to inject it into a tidbit and then feed to bird. Dosage is approx 1/100 ml per pound of bird. Yes, you can kill a bird with this or most any other drug, but there are reasonably safe margins so don't sweat it too much. Do be sure to use an insulin syringe as opposed to a standard 3ml syringe or you'll never get the dosage right.
Ivermectin can be fatally toxic if the dose goes too high. If she doesn't know the dose she can find it out by calling someone/looking on VIN/purchasing a good avian drug textbook. Hopefully you got your question answered. FWIW, these questions also require knowing what species is being given the ivermectin and what parasite you're trying to kill. They also require weight in grams, as the dose is usually micrograms per kilogram for ivermectin and the concentration is in milligrams per milliliter.
I returned to the vet and she found a calculator telling the exact Dose. After searching around for answers, I will never go on the Internet and look for dosage for any kind of medication. I was given bad advice by several falconers that was totally wrong and could've killed my hawk. It is best to leave it to the professionals.
It sounds as though you are now in possession of information of the highest quality. Please share your findings with the group so that others will not make the mistake of following the advice of those falconers who shared their years of knowledge and expertise with you. There's no telling how many lives you may save.
It sounds as though you are now in possession of information of the highest quality. Please share your findings with the group so that others will not make the mistake of following the advice of those falconers who shared their years of knowledge and expertise with you. There's no telling how many lives you may save.
WOW!! Let me share my findings. One "EXPERENCED EXPERT" suggested I give 100x the correct dose. This in fact would have killed a redtail. Other people suggested other doses and methods none of which were correct. I would never give advice on an important subject like this unless I was sure I was correct. The point of my post was that for me at least, when it is a health related problem that could endanger the life of my hawk I'm going to because of the experience I just had consult a professional. That should save some lives!!
Post by runnergirl on Nov 15, 2016 18:40:29 GMT -5
Depending upon the species being treated, the dosing of ivermectin can vary by at least 10 fold. The doses used in the following study were *substantially* higher than standard dosages. The study results ONLY apply to the species tested (peregrine/gyr hybrids). Ivermectin also fails to kill certain parasites so knowing what you're treating is important. (fenbendazole can be a great choice as well). The best advice is to do as richie77 did and seek veterinary care. Avian medicine has grown astoundingly in the past 10 years in depth and breadth of knowledge. Even a general practitioner in the middle of nowhere can call or email a specialist if they don't know.
Also, ivermectin is available in a wide variety of concentrations. The dose of a 1% solution will not be the same volume as that of a 0.2% solution etc. And for a quiz, do ya'll know how to change % to milligrams per milliliter? With ivermectin, details matter.
Evaluation of the dosage of ivermectin in falcons Vet Rec. May 2001;148(19):596-600. M Lierz 1 1 Abu Dhabi, Falcon Research Hospital, United Arab Emirates.
It sounds as though you are now in possession of information of the highest quality. Please share your findings with the group so that others will not make the mistake of following the advice of those falconers who shared their years of knowledge and expertise with you. There's no telling how many lives you may save.
WOW!! Let me share my findings. One "EXPERENCED EXPERT" suggested I give 100x the correct dose. This in fact would have killed a redtail. Other people suggested other doses and methods none of which were correct. I would never give advice on an important subject like this unless I was sure I was correct. The point of my post was that for me at least, when it is a health related problem that could endanger the life of my hawk I'm going to because of the experience I just had consult a professional. That should save some lives!!
I guess I need to be more clear... You should share the specific information (dosages) that your vet suggested to you with everyone here. THAT might save some lives.
Copying my last reply in a similar chippy thread over here.
I think we all need to take a chill pill. Otherwise I'm going to have to start deleting posts and sending PMs and that just sounds an awful lot like work. And I enjoy not working. Because I'm lazy. Don't be the one who makes me have to work. That's just... that's not cool, guys.
Deep breaths everyone. Go fly your birds and enjoy some sunshine while we've still got it. We've got an entire offseason coming up this spring for arguments and fights and such. This is our happy time.
WOW!! Let me share my findings. One "EXPERENCED EXPERT" suggested I give 100x the correct dose. This in fact would have killed a redtail. Other people suggested other doses and methods none of which were correct. I would never give advice on an important subject like this unless I was sure I was correct. The point of my post was that for me at least, when it is a health related problem that could endanger the life of my hawk I'm going to because of the experience I just had consult a professional. That should save some lives!!
I guess I need to be more clear... You should share the specific information (dosages) that your vet suggested to you with everyone here. THAT might save some lives.
I would say not to post the dosages. Why you may ask? Because let's hypothetically say someone may copy it and hypothetically their bird dies, then they'll hypothetically blame the person who posted it, even though it's probably their own fault for not reading the label correctly or doing the conversion correctly.
So let's leave it with this - Bird is sick? Go to a vet. Easy as that.
Thread locked because I'm on a roll today locking threads and why stop now?
Last Edit: Nov 16, 2016 13:02:58 GMT -5 by Falcon Boy
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