Post by ppatterson on Jan 1, 2013 10:29:53 GMT -5
Hello all,
I have posed this question on a few other forums with no response and I am not sure why...anyways here goes.
I am an apprentice who with the blessing of my sponsor is asking for information about bird and dog training.
I currently have a Boykin Spaniel that I trained as both an upland flusher and a waterfowl retriever. He has earned his seasoned title in Hunting Retriever Club and won the Boykin Intermediate Upland Field Trial.
What I am hoping to accomplish as a future falconer is the use of both my pup and hawk in the field. The concern that I share with my sponsor is the commands that I have used in the past with my dog (Memphis is his name).
Memphis is trained to voice, whistle, and hand commands. A solid toot on the whistle has him stop, face me, and sit. A double toot and he changes directions on his quartering pattern by 180 degrees. 4-6 short toots in a row has him come to me. These whistles are augmented by the 8 hand commands that send him to find a bird he did not see fall. I also use about 20 voice commands (some are wasted on parlor tricks) to communicate with Memphis. Memphis is also steady on the flush, shot, and fall though when we haven't hunted enough we sometimes need to practice our skills ( sometimes he flash points and sometimes he breaks on weak flyers). I have always stopped him on rabbit flushes. We hunt quail, pheasant, and chukar in the uplands and puddle ducks in the shallows of lakes and sloughs.
I hope to trap a red tail this season when my paperwork comes back from the state. If and when this happens I would like to know how some folks have handled flusher dogs working in tandem with their hawks. I realize that a Harris might be in my future if I continue hunting birds but I am interested to hear problems, perspectives, and advice on what has and has not worked.
I did see a post about using the tone on a collar to handle the pup and thought that was a great way dealing with the issue.
If it won't work or won't work until I am much more seasoned I would appreciate hearing that as well. My biggest fear is to confuse both bird and dog while training or hunting.
Thanks,
Phillip Patterson
I have posed this question on a few other forums with no response and I am not sure why...anyways here goes.
I am an apprentice who with the blessing of my sponsor is asking for information about bird and dog training.
I currently have a Boykin Spaniel that I trained as both an upland flusher and a waterfowl retriever. He has earned his seasoned title in Hunting Retriever Club and won the Boykin Intermediate Upland Field Trial.
What I am hoping to accomplish as a future falconer is the use of both my pup and hawk in the field. The concern that I share with my sponsor is the commands that I have used in the past with my dog (Memphis is his name).
Memphis is trained to voice, whistle, and hand commands. A solid toot on the whistle has him stop, face me, and sit. A double toot and he changes directions on his quartering pattern by 180 degrees. 4-6 short toots in a row has him come to me. These whistles are augmented by the 8 hand commands that send him to find a bird he did not see fall. I also use about 20 voice commands (some are wasted on parlor tricks) to communicate with Memphis. Memphis is also steady on the flush, shot, and fall though when we haven't hunted enough we sometimes need to practice our skills ( sometimes he flash points and sometimes he breaks on weak flyers). I have always stopped him on rabbit flushes. We hunt quail, pheasant, and chukar in the uplands and puddle ducks in the shallows of lakes and sloughs.
I hope to trap a red tail this season when my paperwork comes back from the state. If and when this happens I would like to know how some folks have handled flusher dogs working in tandem with their hawks. I realize that a Harris might be in my future if I continue hunting birds but I am interested to hear problems, perspectives, and advice on what has and has not worked.
I did see a post about using the tone on a collar to handle the pup and thought that was a great way dealing with the issue.
If it won't work or won't work until I am much more seasoned I would appreciate hearing that as well. My biggest fear is to confuse both bird and dog while training or hunting.
Thanks,
Phillip Patterson