Post by stormcloud96 on May 9, 2006 14:18:00 GMT -5
Almost completely off topic, my dad's letting me hunt on his 100 acres of property! Woohoo but thats the extent of his help. lol But I don't live with him, in fact I live 260 miles away so...what do I expect?
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It's a start hopefull it isn't an empy promise in that he may not expect you to cary throu. I hope you do and suprise the crap out of him. Or he does expect you to fallow throu with the falconry and sees it as a way to beable to see more of you. I hope for the latter.
Oh, Benj before you start making suggestions on American mews (indoor facilities is term used by Regs). You might want to read the regulations. He could possibly get away with Chain link on a weathering area (Outdoor facilities) where the bird should be tethered. Personally, I would never free loft a bird in any kind of wire enclosure. Some states require one of these chambers others require both. In the U.S, the windows have to be vertical bars to past the inspection for the mews. You have to remember that most of our birds aren't raised in a chain link chambers. If you free loft a passage RT in a chain link mew expect to be patching and imping the bird up. Now, I know that some states allow a chamber that is kinda duel weathering/mew but i belive that they require vertical bars aswell. Probally the best thing to do is get advice from your sponsor and call the inspector and kinda get a feeling for what he wants (cause some do care).-Zach
Federal Regulations (A) Indoor facilities (mews) shall be large enough to allow easy access for caring for the raptors. Raptors shall be tethered or separated by partitions and each bird shall be provided enough area to allow it to fully extend its wings. There shall be adequate perches, a secure door easily closed and at least one (1) window protected on the inside by vertical bars spaced narrower than the width of the bird’s body. The floor shall be well drained and shall permit easy cleaning. (B) Outdoor (weathering area) facilities shall be fenced and covered with netting or wire or roofed, except for perches more than six and one-half feet (6 1/2') high. The enclosed area shall be large enough to ensure that birds flying from a perch cannot strike the fence. Raptors shall be provided adequate perches and protection from excessive sun, wind and inclement weather.
Last Edit: May 9, 2006 14:45:32 GMT -5 by Tiercel78
I used to think i knew some things. But i'm not so sure anymore.
Didn't know that regulation about wire in the mews, sorry. With CBs PVC coated chainlink is vastly better than bamboo, because if a bird flys smack into bamboo he's gonna hurt himself, but on chainlink they bounce.
Then make it Bamboo or some other pole type (especially if you plan to freeloft) but I assume my other instructions were ok?
Another note, don't make it massive if you want to freeloft, because the bird will build up speed and try to fly out the window, and break it's self.
When through the woods and forest glades I wander And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees When I look down from lofty mountain grandeur And hear the brook and feel the gentle breeze
Didn't know that regulation about wire in the mews, sorry. With CBs PVC coated chainlink is vastly better than bamboo, because if a bird flys smack into bamboo he's gonna hurt himself, but on chainlink they bounce.
Then make it Bamboo or some other pole type (especially if you plan to freeloft) but I assume my other instructions were ok?
Another note, don't make it massive if you want to freeloft, because the bird will build up speed and try to fly out the window, and break it's self.
nuf said
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Post by Master Yarak on May 9, 2006 16:51:44 GMT -5
Size is also covered in our Yankee regs. It gives minimum but no maximum. A good friend of mine used a large barn for free lofting. The bird lived in the rafters high over head. He would go in there with a small amount of food if the bird came it was weighed and flown if not it was too fat to hunt with anyway. Yarak
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away
I'm not a confident enough falconer for freelofting a bird like that. I guess it's all a personal thing, as is everything else. Do most people over there on the other side of that big blue wet thing free loft? Or just some?
When through the woods and forest glades I wander And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees When I look down from lofty mountain grandeur And hear the brook and feel the gentle breeze
A weatering area that is positioned so that you have to go thru it to get to the mews is great. It will double as a weathering area and a safety room. Prevent loss of a bird that gets past you when entering the Mew.
I used to think i knew some things. But i'm not so sure anymore.
Post by Master Yarak on May 15, 2006 8:37:48 GMT -5
Most here do freeloft. Those that don't may someday wish they had. A tangled up dead or injured bird is not something I would want to come home to. I prefer to get footed a few times each year getting her out of mews while her hormones are raging. Yarak
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away
I have to agree with Yarak. I freeloft the 2 eagles and the HH as well. The passage eagle {Zoltar} is no problem, but, the rehab {Satan} eagle I have to really keep an eye on when I enter his chamber. I also have a wire enclosure for the weathering area wihtout any problems. The birds are not tearing up their feathers and I haven't had to do any imping of feathers.
Sorry for the double post, but, I forgot to ask Benji if he has a bird or if he is just making his opinions based on what he has read or by what he has learned from his "sponsor".
Raptrlvr, Have you used wire with all of your birds or just the eagles? I was trying the remember if I ever seen any of the eagles at the conservancy hanging off walls. Now that I think of it I really haven't ever seen a Golden slamming around that much (probally cause they are smarter). I free loft but just not in wire chambers. I've just seen too many birds with tore up ceres and feathers. Course, I have seen some falconers that haven't had any problems. Most of them had CB harris's but a few had RTs. I guess that it just depends on the bird and you have to be prepared to fix the problem if one arises.
Last Edit: May 15, 2006 13:02:20 GMT -5 by Tiercel78
I used to think i knew some things. But i'm not so sure anymore.