Post by aussiedream109 on Sept 11, 2013 4:02:20 GMT -5
Hey guys! So I modified a welder's glove (the traditional first glove of an apprentice...lol), and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for changes or if it looks ok. The yellow cords are actually sewn together to make a loop to hang it. The clip can easily be taken off and swapped out for a different type if its the "wrong kind".
Thanks everyone! As always, you guys are awesome!
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Post by aussiedream109 on Sept 11, 2013 16:21:02 GMT -5
Thanks Steve! The two biggest things I had concerns about we're 1) do I have the "right" kind of clip on there, and 2) is it "wrong" I attached the leash directly to the glove(aka can't easily be removed).... I worked super hard on that thing....took me an entire movie to sew
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You'll find that you'll need to split the bottom seem from the edge up to the wrist. It may fit now, but falconry is usually done when it's cold out and often a welders glove won't fit well over the sleeve of your jacket.
Also, you'll probably try several kinds of snaps before you find one you like. You probably won't like the one you have on there now.
Post by echotadog on Sept 11, 2013 19:50:28 GMT -5
Chigger is a bit too nice there. PLEASE Don't use those kinds of clips unless you want to loose a bird with gear intact. They do and will fail at the wrong time and you will beat yourself up for years worrying about whether the gear on its feet left it hanging on a branch or not. On eBay or through Falconry suppliers you can find more appropriate and safer clasps. I use to use the side trigger circular snaps until my hawk bated away on a kill and the perfect storm of events happened. The side trigger had some drag against it on the ground right as the hawk jumped and it opened up. He was loose but thankfully not lost. I took it as a shot across the bow and bought French scissor clips off eBay. $7 for 2 and that's more than worth having for a secure hawk.
As for your initiative in making equipment , Keep it up. Youre doing great so far. It's truly inspiring to see folks dive in and make some of their equipment instead if just buying it all. Either route is fine if the wallet abides, however, if you can make it you should. You will have a better grasp of the tolerances of your gear if ya do. Keep at it and please keep us updated as you do.
Last Edit: Sept 11, 2013 23:25:01 GMT -5 by echotadog
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Post by Falcon Boy on Sept 12, 2013 0:16:10 GMT -5
French clips aren't great either, over time they can freeze open or freeze closed or not close all the way. I have used them without issue but I had one that after two seasons would open itself periodically.....
Last Edit: Sept 12, 2013 0:17:39 GMT -5 by Falcon Boy
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Post by aussiedream109 on Sept 12, 2013 2:22:16 GMT -5
Thanks rob, chigger, echo, and FB....I appreciate all your advice!...I'll switch out that clip for something else (probably whatever my sponsor has, for now).......any other advice is appreciated too!
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Post by Falcon Boy on Sept 12, 2013 12:48:10 GMT -5
I would go with whatever your sponsor suggests to be honest. I have used a lot of different clips on gloves, and I've realized that I change the clip depending upon the bird I'm flying. Most times I use an appropriately sized fishing snap swivel. Sampo is the only brand I trust for the most part, as I had a coopers hawk break an off-brand swivel that was rated for 100+ pounds.
French clips do have their place though and work great if you need to release a bird very quickly after it is unhooded (i.e. some big falcons like to leave the glove very quickly once the hood is removed). In that case, it's nice to have a quick release like a French clip.
A tip, never, ever, ever, have a bird hooded if it's not securely clipped into something significant enough to keep it in place (i.e. a perch or the glove when it's on your hand)!
Last Edit: Sept 12, 2013 12:49:36 GMT -5 by Falcon Boy
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Ethics make the individual, not the other way around.
A tip, never, ever, ever, have a bird hooded if it's not securely clipped into something significant enough to keep it in place (i.e. a perch or the glove when it's on your hand)!
Sadly, I see this done sometime by people who should know better.
A tip, never, ever, ever, have a bird hooded if it's not securely clipped into something significant enough to keep it in place (i.e. a perch or the glove when it's on your hand)!
Sadly, I see this done sometime by people who should know better.
This is one of my pet peeves, I can't stand it!
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Post by robhawkyyz on Sept 13, 2013 22:17:28 GMT -5
a hawk flies away with a hood on and it can not see or get it off.. any other questions? just because they have a hood on does not mean they will not try to fly away or bate.. you are new but the question of why in this situation is messed up... a lot of common sense goes a long way.
Last Edit: Sept 13, 2013 22:33:43 GMT -5 by robhawkyyz
Post by aussiedream109 on Sept 14, 2013 5:53:44 GMT -5
Rob- I honestly didn't know they would attempt to fly, or I wouldn't have asked the question. I knew that they would bate, but never would have thought they would try to fly without being able to see
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