I am not feeling too confident. i'm sure that when i get a sponsor i will be fine though. one question, does anything LEGAL wise happen if your bird dies??
so that's it? just submit a form, it seems that more should happen. I heard you get a fine if it happens again, is that true?
Why do you think more should happen?
RE being fined, not true. However, if every bird you get winds up dead, you may be inspected and investigated to find out why. Depending on what wildlife officers find, you could be fined and lose your permit.
well they are highly protected birds. I don't agree with ita entirely but it seems they would do something if your birds keep dying.
It certainly would raise a big red flag if all your birds kept dying. I'd wanna know why, and how I could help you.
70% of the wild birds hatched every spring die within their first year. Mother Nature kills far more than falconers ever could. I think that mean ol' beach should be fined!
if your bird dies and it does happen sometimes, you fill out the 3-186a form and it does ask for cause of death so they will probably want vet records to find the cause of death if it's not self explanitory. if it's due to not being taken care of properly that could cause problems like permits taken away, reinspection of facilities and equipment. so as long as you do everything to ensure the well being of your hawk the worst will not happen.
...you fill out the 3-186a form and it does ask for cause of death so they will probably want vet records to find the cause of death if it's not self explanitory.
I never noticed the 'cause of death' line on the 186 before you mentioned it here. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've never heard of anyone being asked for vet records to confirm cause of death. Anyone?
I asked the same question to my sponsor, before he was my sponsor.
I would have thought all the hoops you go thru to become a falconer, the death of a BOP in your care would be highly scrutinized!!!
Why should the loss of a falconry bird be highly scrutinized by permitting agents - moreso than the loss of a zoo display bird, an education bird, a patient in rehab, a bird in a breeding project, etc.? Each permittee jumps through hoops to get their permit too. Why scrutinize falconers and not the others?
well, i didnt know if the other permits get looked at either.
as a parent, if i get my kids a pet and they let it die, and i know the reason of why, sick or neglect, it will dictate how i respond to them. and all they did was ask for the pet.
i wasnt sure if, after going thru the motions of becoming a falconer, you were subject to a visit from DOW after a death.
that and all thoes other places you mentioned might have a lawyer on retainer, i dont.
if you look at it, what happens when a human dies?
NO MATTAER WHAT, there is an investagation in to what happened. we see it all of the time on TV so it is pounded in to our head, death means negative action. We are just puting a human face on a wild animal.
well, i didnt know if the other permits get looked at either.
Mostly, no.
i wasnt sure if, after going thru the motions of becoming a falconer, you were subject to a visit from DOW after a death.
I haven't heard of it happening, unless someone lodged a complaint against you, or you had a paper trail of dead birds. But, according to rules, you're subject to a surprise visit anyway, dead bird or not.