So, a friend called me yesturday with a question I was unsure of. He's planning on butchering one of his cows sometime soon, and wanted to know what kind of scraps I would like for hawk food. I told him the heart, and possibly bony/meaty things that a hawk may like to pick at like ankles and vertebre. He asked about intestines, and I told him I have no idea whether that would be a good idea or not.... Since I'll be hunting for mule deer later this month and may want to put some things aside from that too, I thought it would be worth asking for some opinions on the matter.
As a side note, I already have a variety of rodents and birds building up in the freezer that I've been popping with my BB gun, and I'm big on the "whole carcass diet" concept. This is just another supplement to the diet. I've seen elsewhere on the forum that some people pick up scraps from butchers, just not exactly what kind of scraps they are...
So, a friend called me yesturday with a question I was unsure of. He's planning on butchering one of his cows sometime soon, and wanted to know what kind of scraps I would like for hawk food. I told him the heart, and possibly bony/meaty things that a hawk may like to pick at like ankles and vertebre. He asked about intestines, and I told him I have no idea whether that would be a good idea or not.... Since I'll be hunting for mule deer later this month and may want to put some things aside from that too, I thought it would be worth asking for some opinions on the matter.
As a side note, I already have a variety of rodents and birds building up in the freezer that I've been popping with my BB gun, and I'm big on the "whole carcass diet" concept. This is just another supplement to the diet. I've seen elsewhere on the forum that some people pick up scraps from butchers, just not exactly what kind of scraps they are...
I would be careful feeding gastro-intestinal organs, as well as accessory organs (liver, etc) from livestock. Unless you know FOR SURE that they are not being fed antibiotics and steroids...which is pretty hard to come by these days.
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Post by okiereddirthawker on Nov 3, 2008 22:33:09 GMT -5
there are withdrawal times on the antibiotics that if the rancher is following will provide enough time for the drugs to be metabolized. As for the hormones, there is more estrogenic activity in soybean oil, cabbage, milk, and eggs than there is in implanted beef. pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/pubcd/B1302.htm
Health....... is the slowest possible rate at which you can die! That's Dr. Okiereddirthawker!
Those were my thoughts pretty much. This is one of those guys that keeps two or three cattle in the back yard for private use, so I doubt he uses any of that stuff. I was more worried about diseases, bacteria, protozoa, that could occur in those organs, and what the nutritional level would be.
I will not answer about the any other parts other than what comes from my own opinion. I do feed beef heart. I would not feed anything that has to do with the intestine tract. Just an opinion with no merit.
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Ok, so far we seem to all agree nothing from the GI tract. How bout kidneys? At this point I really only feel safe with the heart and other muscle meat, and boney things that would make good tirings (tail, ankles, vertebre, etc...). Any other ideas from anyone that has used scraps from large game hunting?
Ok, so far we seem to all agree nothing from the GI tract. How bout kidneys? At this point I really only feel safe with the heart and other muscle meat, and boney things that would make good tirings (tail, ankles, vertebre, etc...). Any other ideas from anyone that has used scraps from large game hunting?
I use rabbit and squirrel kidneys for tidbits while hunting but I don't think I'd feed a whole meal of kidney like from a cow or a deer.
Ok, so far we seem to all agree nothing from the GI tract. How bout kidneys? At this point I really only feel safe with the heart and other muscle meat, and boney things that would make good tirings (tail, ankles, vertebre, etc...). Any other ideas from anyone that has used scraps from large game hunting?
I use rabbit and squirrel kidneys for tidbits while hunting but I don't think I'd feed a whole meal of kidney like from a cow or a deer.
LOL!! Goodness no! I only use casting free foods like that for training and such, I like to use whole carcass type foods (like half a rat for example) for larger meals. It's just that I was kinda raised like a packrat, don't throw it away if it might be useful for something....
Ok, so far we seem to all agree nothing from the GI tract. How bout kidneys? At this point I really only feel safe with the heart and other muscle meat, and boney things that would make good tirings (tail, ankles, vertebre, etc...). Any other ideas from anyone that has used scraps from large game hunting?
I agree. Personally, I don't like to serve any organs from big game that filter or store bodily waste. Liver and kidneys filter, bowels and bladder store. Just my POV.