I've heard some stuff about these dogs. did some research but couldn't find much on line. anyone have any experience with them. what are they good at/can hunting. thx for any info
09-10season 0 game taken. No one said any thing about needing a bird to go hunting ;D ;D
Post by justinrondeau on Jun 17, 2008 15:44:33 GMT -5
I'm getting my little female in about a week and a half She's got ground dogs, coon dogs, bear and cat(cougar and bobcat) dogs behind her, from my research they are more intelligent than most terriers, have a better nose than other terrier breeds, can be trained to retrieve from land and water, fur and feather, and make great guard dogs and blood trailers and many have treeing instinct. (thank nazi era germans for creating this versitile breed) Mine will be run on snowshoe hares first, then started on coons this winter.
Concnerns are that they are very, very active, and if not trained away from it early on can have a lot of dog agression, to the point that a 20 poind jagd will atack a 75 pound hound on the tree. Easy to tain away from if you start early (from what I understand). I will consider starting a thread and posting progress of her training if there is any interest.
Careful, I've heard they've been known to kill falconers' birds. I heard about one guy that had a pair and they got loose one day. They ended up killing all of his chickens, his cat and his three hawks. And this is after the dogs had hunted with the birds before. -Joby
Post by justinrondeau on Jun 18, 2008 14:41:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the warnings, and thanks for the welcome Matt. The houndman I am getting them from hunts his 14 perfectly trained well mannered hounds by himself most of the time, and has about half a dozen jagds around too. With his help, and the help of my sponsor if I need it, and with my girlfriend helping to socializing the pup (if not dresing it up - cringe -) I think everything should turn out ok. And if she's mean to birds I'll go hunt her with someone's Golden Eagle, then at least if she attacked the bird would have a chance
Post by justinrondeau on Jun 18, 2008 17:58:48 GMT -5
I know I know, goldens hunt wolves, but the mamma dog is 17 pounds and treed a 180 pound cougar by herself, and the sire is just under 30 pounds and has bayed up a 250 pound bear by himself... I was kinda joking, seeing as how these dogs are vicious and eat hawks. But yeah, she won't be hunting with a Golden Eagle any time soon!! Hahaha neither will I for that matter
Post by justinrondeau on Jun 19, 2008 13:36:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I'll just write some stuff here until someone who knows better tells me otherwise
I've wanted a jagdterrier for about as long as I've wanted a hawk, which at 23 is over half my life (!). I live in Forks and Port Angeles, Washington, in the wettest area of the state, and the wettest area of the lower 48 for that matter. We get from 120 to 160 inches of rain a year, but don't worry I've going to get some good boot grease for my hawk, so he should be fine (joking of course). A guy in town breeds a fine line of jagdterriers, but college and work and every other little thing has kept me from getting one, also from getting a hawk. This year things have changed, I have a full time job as a commercial diver, and am renting a house with a garage and a nice fenced yard. I've had beagles before and one aweseom beagle JRT cross that was turning into a fine rabbit dog, until he met his demise on the highway. That was quite a few years ago, but I know that with a good dog I can move around the snowshoe hares enough that I might be able to get a hawk to catch a few. Upon deciding once again that I should try for a hawk, I knew that I needed a dog first. After contacting the jagdterrier breeder here in Forks, and finding out that he had a litter just about born I reserved a female pup. After they were born, one of the males had an all white foot, and I was immediately racked with indecision. The male would be Kraut, and as they aged he appeared to be the boldest puppy, the first out of the box every time, while the scruffy little female seemed the most friendly, the second out of the box and running full speed to me and wagging her stubby little tail. That settled it, Kraut will go to Oregon and hunt cats and coons and the scruffy little female will come live with me and my girlfriend, and learn to chase rabbits and later this winter raccoons. As of this writing she is almost 6 weeks old, and developing a nice scruffy little coat. I know these dogs are balls of fire, but with the breeder to help tain them and my sponsor as well, I think it should be alright. If she turns out as good as I think she might, I'll probably look to some of the other western WA mudhawkers' beagel JRT crosses to breed her and make some super rabbit dogs, but that'll be well over a year from now anyhow.
First taining will be playful clicker taining while she's young, and once she is older I'll use the ecollar if I have to. She'll be tained to rabbits first, then coons, and then used for blood trailing big game. Any questions, concerns, or comments are welcome.
Post by justinrondeau on Jun 19, 2008 22:42:14 GMT -5
Dac, she turns six weeks this weekend. I was wondering about the importance of getting them that young. care to explain a a little why you think its so important?