learned a lesson. i found one hatching, so i took it out and put it in the brooder. oooops, hope he makes it. he was almost out and i placed him under the light and i think it dried him out. i got him out of the egg and spritzed him with water. i will leave the next one in the bator to fully hatch, THEN move him to the brooder. live and learn.
well he didnt make it. so i woke up this morning to see anothe little guy running around, so now i have 2. i bet when i get home there are 2 more in there.
the best advice i could give, leave it alone. just make sure the humidity and temp are ok and leave it alone. these birds have been hatching for millions of years by them selves, and human hands just cause problems.
BUT... i must insist that you open one of these guys up while in the egg. they are CRAMPED IN THE EGG. it really is amazing. i cant understand how they get out. the head and beak were tucked under the wing, guess i have to be hatched to understand!
BUT... i must insist that you open one of these guys up while in the egg. they are CRAMPED IN THE EGG. it really is amazing. i cant understand how they get out. the head and beak were tucked under the wing, guess i have to be hatched to understand!
This is an odd thing to suggest, right after you say to leave them alone. If you open them up, while in the egg, before they are supposed to hatch, they'll die. I'll bet you could just google a picture of a chick in an egg to get an idea...
"We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?" -Bloc Party
I would assume he did this with one that didn't make it. These guys can easily go full term and then die when it comes time to hatch either because of humidity problems which can cause the air pocket in the egg to be too small or they won't be able to turn around in the egg to make the circle that breaks the cap off or the egg shell would be too hard and dry for them the crack with their egg tooth.
I've got some regular quail eggs in my incubator as well and the first one first started trying to hatch yesturday afternoon. I kept watch, misted the egg with water and made sure the humidity was good, but this morning, after about 16 hours at it, he has only made it about 80 percent of the way around....he was having a rough time... So I grabbed a sewing pin this morning and hooking the head of it under the shell where he had stopped I finished the circle and lifted the cap off for him...then misted him a bit more for lubrication and set him back down in the incubator to pull out on his own. As I watched he pushed out shoulders first literally folded in half until suddenly his head popped out and he started peeping. Poor thing has been exhausted and just laying there blinking for awhile now. We've got to remember that artificial incubation is just that: "artificial". Natural incubation is best and I'll bet if his mom were incubating him he wouldn't have had such a rough time. But you really need to understand what you're doing before you intervene with mother nature. These chicks are still attached to the shell by blood supply and somewhat of an umbilical chord, if your not careful when helping you can really screw things up.
BUT... i must insist that you open one of these guys up while in the egg. they are CRAMPED IN THE EGG. it really is amazing. i cant understand how they get out. the head and beak were tucked under the wing, guess i have to be hatched to understand!
This is an odd thing to suggest, right after you say to leave them alone. If you open them up, while in the egg, before they are supposed to hatch, they'll die. I'll bet you could just google a picture of a chick in an egg to get an idea...
your right, you could look it up on the web, but its never the same as seeing it in person. sooooo different to actually touch it in person, its the experience and the sight. i couldnt believe how packed in that egg it was.
Post by forestfalcon on May 5, 2009 14:04:40 GMT -5
I'm sorry, Killjoy, but actually suggesting that someone crack open a perfectly viable egg to satisfy curiosity is a bit irresponsible. It is no better that people backyard breeding dogs so that kids can experience the "miracle of life."
Human fetuses are pretty darn cramped inside the pregnant mother....what would you suggest here?
"We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?" -Bloc Party
I'm sorry, Killjoy, but actually suggesting that someone crack open a perfectly viable egg to satisfy curiosity is a bit irresponsible. It is no better that people backyard breeding dogs so that kids can experience the "miracle of life."
Human fetuses are pretty darn cramped inside the pregnant mother....what would you suggest here?
its called a cesarean and they do it all the time.
Post by forestfalcon on May 5, 2009 17:27:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they do a c-section when it is medically necessary....more importantly when it is time for the baby to be born. Not for giggles to see what it looks like on the inside.
I'm sorry, Killjoy, but actually suggesting that someone crack open a perfectly viable egg to satisfy curiosity is a bit irresponsible. It is no better that people backyard breeding dogs so that kids can experience the "miracle of life."
Human fetuses are pretty darn cramped inside the pregnant mother....what would you suggest here?
its called a cesarean and they do it all the time.
"We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?" -Bloc Party
There are plenty of times in which the new chick is coming out that you can see how camped they are as they come out. As the chick is breaking out, you can pull off the shell pieces it breaks off easily and see more of it as it comes out, and also see what Killjoy mentioned.
There are plenty of times in which the new chick is coming out that you can see how camped they are as they come out. As the chick is breaking out, you can pull off the shell pieces it breaks off easily and see more of it as it comes out, and also see what Killjoy mentioned.
....and a much nicer way, rather than needlessly killing something. Good suggestion, Kurohyo.
"We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?" -Bloc Party
FF they do C sections all the time my nephew and niece where C sections. mom just didnt want to go threw the labor again. besides that sorry but it is just a quail. I think you are over reacting a lil bit.
ok yall are over reacting. this is not a huge deal. do you kill cock-roaches, have you ever done a disection of a frog or something. Come on the man has a whole bunch of eggs that are being produced daily. So i am guessing all those biologists who kill things to better understand the world around them are bad too. this is exactly what killjoy was doing, just triing to better understand what he was doing since he is breeding the quail to kill them anyways. Don't get me wrong but killing things for no reason is bad, but he is trying to learn. This is different from the dog thing because the backyard breeders don't have a plan with sufficient money, rescources or knowledge to properly raise the young. Where killjoy knows what he is doing.
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