Munsterlander or weimaraner

[squirrelhawker73]

any of you guys hunted with these dogs, i am planning on gettin one of the two but not sure. i would prefer a large munsty but they have longer hair and would bring more mud into the house wich is a problem for my dads girlfriend. both are HPR breeds and ive read that they are good all around hunting dogs. my sponsor has a small munsty but its just a pet not a hunting dog. anybody have info on these breeds in the field i would appreciate it.

[spygirl]

I love, love, LOVE weims! My best hunting dog ever was a weim. From 8 months till the day he died. He was fantastic on bird and fur. Plus, he would watch the sheep in the field. I know at least twice he chased off bobcats from our chicken pen. The only thing we really worked on was the basic commands. All the hunting stuff came naturally. I dunno, I could be biased. One day I'll have another one. I just can't make myself right now. That big boy left a big hole in my heart the day he died.

I've never worked with a musterlander. So I can't give you an opinion on them. But I think you know which way I'd lean.

[Migisi]

Jan 30, 2009 19:45:56 GMT -5 squirrelhawker73 said:

any of you guys hunted with these dogs, i am planning on gettin one of the two but not sure. i would prefer a large munsty but they have longer hair and would bring more mud into the house wich is a problem for my dads girlfriend. both are HPR breeds and ive read that they are good all around hunting dogs. my sponsor has a small munsty but its just a pet not a hunting dog. anybody have info on these breeds in the field i would appreciate it.

Go Vizla instead. It'll find and point rabbits and pheasants - and you can tell the difference in their point. Sweet family dog, not hyper. Short hair - no burs stick. They stay close, don't range far (many call them 'velcro Vizlas'). Good under a RT or falcon.

Not a fan of the "why me?" Had one, dumb as a box o rocks. The only dog in my life I ever gave away.

[squirrelhawker73]

i read about the vizsla and it seems like it would be a great hunting dog. im still researching and im not sure what breed but a vizsla is definately an option now but i would probably get the wire-hair vizsla if i went that way. thanx for the info and any more is welcome

[dirthawker]

I have to agree with migisi the why me is dumber than a box of rocks. had one some yrs ago and thought about shooting the stupid b(*^&$ most every day. finally just gave her to a friend of mine to try her on bear and lion with the other dogs. and she still isn't close to his other dogs. he was chasing grizzlies in AK last yr on the pipe line. I think he was hoping she would become bear food.

go with the visla my brother in laws is a pretty good dog for a pup and just keeps getting better

[coops658]

Most of the weims in this country have been bred for show rather than hunting and as a result have lost the good genes. They are beautiful dogs though. Whichever dog you choose make sure it comes from tried and true hunting lines.

[serenity]

go with a vizsla. they are amazing. they are on the hyper side. but great loyal dogs. work with them for my job they are amazing. love them.

[jfseaman]

Match the dog to the hunting style.

Example: I can not use my Pointer with RT because he is to fast to far but with the falcon great.

If you are going to fly RT or HH a Beagle x Basset or Mini Doc. If you will move on to other hunting styles, say gos, coops or longwings, a Vizsla or German Short Haired as the can work close enough to be helpful with a RT or HH and move on.

It is possible to use any breed for any purpose just a matter of commitment and training.

[diane]

The Small Munsterlander has enough hair to bring mud in the house. For short coats there is the GSP, Weim, Vizsla and English pointer. Of those, I'd vote for the GSP or the Vizsla. I've hunted Harris Hawks over Vizslas for 16 years now and so I'm biased. The German breeds tend to be a bit more independent than the V or the Brittany. They are often (but not always) harder headed. The Vs and the Brittany tend to be "softer" in that they respond to verbal correction where a harder dog might take physical correction for the same effect. The softer dogs can still be oblivious to pain when hunting. I've only seen Musterlanders (small or large) at NAVHDA tests. Seemed ok, but I prefer short hair. The Vizsla handles more cold than I can as long as she can run.

What ever you do get a dog from hunting lines. And do think about what you plan to hunt and where. I do hunt rabbit with my V - but rabbits hold point even worse than pheasant and she tends to run too big for rabbit in MI - she was fine in the more open fields of the west. My first V adjusted her range on her own better than this one - but my current V is still a fine hunting dog.

I did add a mini-dachshund this season. She is 11 months now and has improved are hunting here in MI. If I could only have one dog I'd choose a mini-dachshund for MI, but I'd go with the Vizsla in most of the West where things are more open and there are more pheasant. I've hunted Ducks, quail, chucker, pheasant, squirrels, cottontail and jack rabbit with the Harris over Vizslas. The more upland bird chances the more I'd go for a pointing dog.

Good luck
Diane