Hi everyone on this site.. My Harris has just picked up a nasty bite in the flag area above the tarsi.I,ve treated it with peroxide,but I didnt know what strength to use,so I used 10% vol.. Is this OK...? Any advice appreciated. Allan.
Post by Master Yarak on Oct 22, 2004 10:44:23 GMT -5
Having some experience on this subject I think it should be fine. The wounds are clean and tend not get infected. If your HH is not favoring the leg then it looks far worse than it is. Just keep an eye on it watch for swelling or excessive warmth. Since you have cleaned now stop messing with it and it will heal fine Yarak lord of the bites
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Just for future reference, hydrogen peroxide is not the best thing to use on critters. It can actually make the wound/sore/whatever worse if you use it over a period of time. The vets at A&M had me use betadine solution (not scrub) diluted with sterile water at a 50/50 ratio. I mixed a small squirt bottle of it and kept it by the sink (you can take it with you in the field, too). I used this for every critter that I rehabbed that had open wounds. I even used it on myself when those nice, sweet critters decided to bite, claw, etc. Works great. Just my 2 cents.
Brandi, this is what I have heard too. The Hydrogen Peroxide actually can push the debis or infection further into the wound with the bubbling action it causes. I was told to use Iodine or betadine. Cheers, Weasel;D
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You could probably dilute it, but then it's basically just water. All it is anyway is water with an extra part of oxygen. Hydrogen peroxide also eats tissue, leaving it on for any period of time will actually necrose tissue by starving the blood from it with the bubbles, and then it will dissolve the meat. Treating an open sore everyday with it will lead to a trip to the vet telling them that you don't know why the wound just won't heal. Betadine or an iodine solution is best. A soft bristled toothbrush to scrub with is a good idea too, IMO. Rich
Post by Master Yarak on Oct 29, 2004 14:13:56 GMT -5
Ya buddy! Proverbial nail on the head! Good Job! RICHW Yarak
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Hi everyone on the site... Havent visited for a while as I,ve been busy working and hawking. There seems to be some confusion in the replies regarding the dillution of peroxide...! Thats why I asked if 10 vol. would be OK.10 VOL is basically peroxide diluted to only 3% and is carried by aqua not water...The treatment,i,ve found out by talking to various falconers over here in the UK,is the initial step in wound cleaning and only to be used once to stop the inset of infection.After treatment the wound was rinsed off with water. I,m pleased to tell you the hawk was back in the field after four days and showed no reluctance on squirrels,although she lost three...!!But never mind,she picked up a 3/4 grown rabbit on the way home. A friend of mine reccomended P ottassium Permanganate........Anyone know anything about this..? Cheers Allan.
Betadine or an iodine solution is best. A soft bristled toothbrush to scrub with is a good idea too, IMO. Rich
[glow=purple,2,900]On the horses we don't scrub. The vet says that it may actually jam debris in it rather than clean it out, it would be better to let it all run out. Would that be the same or different for a hawk? (This is when Shadow had a puncture wound index finger deep, might change the factors)[/glow]
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Post by Master Yarak on Nov 6, 2004 11:59:05 GMT -5
The bites inflicted by squirrels are clean and are more like punctures. I have not seen one go septic or have any debris inside them. No tearing or ripping has been noticed either. I do scrub them once but not vigorously yes with peroxide. They tend to heal slow but rarely get infected. Yarak
Last Edit: Nov 6, 2004 12:00:07 GMT -5 by Master Yarak
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away
RT, I do belive that most of the squirrel hawkers on this site use chaps encluding myself. I have a tiercel that flys a 880-890 with everything. It dosent seem to affect his flying at all. They work great and have saved my bird countless times from really bad bites. I don't think that I would ever fly squirrels without them now.-Zach
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Post by Master Yarak on Feb 15, 2005 14:59:29 GMT -5
One more topic that has been covered. Since it has been requested of me to just answer the dam questions, I will. Yes chaps are vital to HELPING protect the legs and toes. I have never seen any restriction or reduction in catching or footing squirrels. Ever. If you fly on squirrels regularly then fly with chaps. Yarak
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away