Post by harrishawker on Jan 5, 2008 4:38:20 GMT -5
I know the cottontails are smaller than over here but on average how big are your jacks. Over here we have an average size of i would say 3 1/2 lbs With a good one going to about 5lb max. We then have this void between the average Rabbit at 3 1/2 lbs to a average hare of around 9 lb. So then to catch these monsters you are talking a big FHH or a Gos or possibly a FRT.
Just wondered how they match up with jackrabbits
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Post by uradramaqueen on Jan 6, 2008 18:13:05 GMT -5
harrishawker said:
I know the cottontails are smaller than over here but on average how big are your jacks. Over here we have an average size of i would say 3 1/2 lbs With a good one going to about 5lb max. We then have this void between the average Rabbit at 3 1/2 lbs to a average hare of around 9 lb. So then to catch these monsters you are talking a big FHH or a Gos or possibly a FRT.
Just wondered how they match up with jackrabbits
regards
Elma Fudd
I find it very amusing that some falconers in the UK actually weigh the rabbits they catch. For what reason is this done.
I can only think it is for the falconers ego and social standing so that they can tell a better story.
Thankfully the birds mindset believes a kill is just that.
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Post by harrishawker on Jan 6, 2008 18:30:11 GMT -5
I see no harm in it if its a un usually large one, after all fisherman weigh their fish if its a good size. I no goshawkers who have weighed their Hares especially those who don't catch many . I see no harm in it.
Its an interesting sideline you have brought up.
Has anyone on here perhaps weighed a large fox squirrel or jack, i have done a couple of times. The largest i think was 5lb's i was very pleased with sid that day. ;D
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Post by uradramaqueen on Jan 6, 2008 19:12:00 GMT -5
harrishawker said:
I see no harm in it if its a un usually large one, after all fisherman weigh their fish if its a good size. I no goshawkers who have weighed their Hares especially those who don't catch many . I see no harm in it.D
Does the bird need to know what weight the kill is? How many longwingers do you know that weigh there kills or for that matter any other falconers in the uk that weigh there kill. As for weighing the hare this done in order to assess the animals age
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Post by Master Yarak on Jan 6, 2008 23:53:45 GMT -5
A great deal of information can be gained by taking measurements. Here in the USA bird banders measure wings, body length and weight. I have weighed a few kills myself. Some individuals were unusually large. I hate to be the one to tell you this BUT you if think my weighing prey animals is somehow ego driven you are sadly mistaken. The stories I tell are no reflection on me just my bird. Things must be very different over there. Yarak
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Post by pennstatepitt on Jan 7, 2008 7:24:03 GMT -5
From "Gazehounds and Coursing" by M.H. Dutch Salmon "The antelope jackrabbit weighs 6-12 pounds with the average about nine and rarely to 15 pounds." I guess they are only found in parts of Arizona and New Mexico though. Anyone see/hawk them? I can't beleive the size of these jacks, pretty amizing for an Eastern boy who's hunted cottontails since I was twelve. I might think it was a deer if one of those jacks jumped up in front of me I see that the jacks are in the same genus as the European hare, so I guess they could correctly called hares. Is that right, or is there a difference between hares and jackrabbits?
Post by uradramaqueen on Jan 7, 2008 14:20:06 GMT -5
yarak2 said:
A great deal of information can be gained by taking measurements. Here in the USA bird banders measure wings, body length and weight. Yarak
This is indeed required as that is part of the survey and course of the work .
have weighed a few kills myself. Some individuals were unusually large. I hate to be the one to tell you this BUT you if think my weighing prey animals is somehow ego driven you are sadly mistaken.
Exactly you seem to weigh some of your kills not everyone and just exceptions.I disagree with the second part.
Post by Master Yarak on Jan 7, 2008 16:06:07 GMT -5
Without knowing you or you knowing me your statement is very presumptuous. Perhaps if I were to give the benefit of the doubt that may well be your experience. That leads me to think you have associated yourself with some falconers of lower caliber. I am baffled as to how you can draw a conclusion based on someone you know nothing about. I am humbled by falconry. My ego lives in a separate realm. I hunt the most abundant mammal where I live, its not ego its practical. Why don't share with us a bit about yourself and falconry background Sue. Yarak
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